Category: Unoffensive Reports

After seven continuous weeks of badger cull in the UK, Unoffensive has taken a bit of a blow. We are aware that we’ve not been publishing as regularly  as normal as we have been busy and exhausted during the campaign. For that reason, we have a lot of things to talk about and this update is just the first one of five to come in the next days.

The badger cull was grim and disgusting, but also a lot of fun. Our comrades at Underground Badger Syndicate have been working hard and it was great working alongside them. Many cages later, loads of farmers angry and shooters sent back home with their guns in the carrier, the cull has ended. We’ve seen the grim side of the countryside as per usual with traps not only for badgers but for every wild animal you can imagine. We’ve seen badger setts completely destroyed by the cull, but also setts that have kept as lively and strong as they were when the cull started. It is always wonderful to see badgers fucking about at night after the cull is over, and we also managed to do so. So as every year, the cull was exhausting but rewarding and we would not dream in a million years missing out in such an important campaign.

Back to our media business, we’ve been lacking publishing our usual. We’ve now scheduled all hit reports plus a few A is for Anarchy and ALFridays for you to learn and enjoy. Technology 101 is taking a little break, but it will come back soon without a doubt. 

We need some time to unwind after the campaign, but we would be enormously grateful if you contacted us in relation to other campaigns and actions happening in Europe, maybe we can meet up and join the fight!

We have one workshop booked at the beginning of January in Switzerland. We would be happy to give talks in other places if folks are interested. We do not ask for money (we’ve been told that certain saviours do for some strange reason) and really we just need help finding a venue and promoting it locally. So if you want us to visit and have a chat (and live within Europe as visas are difficult and transport would take us forever) drop us an email or a PM and let’s get it sorted! 

A little something folks could really do to help us out is too share our social media and posts. Instagram seems to have been doing more or less ok and we’ve not been taken down in a long while, but our facebook page is still suffering after the last ban. Share us and comment, like the posts, recommend us to others, whatever!

For the upcoming updates on merch, a money transparency post and a Liberate or Die call out, keep an eye as we will post them in the next few days.

As always, we are super appreciative of the support, so if anyone is willing to join our Patreon team and can afford it (please, do not put yourself in money trouble), visit the link and drop us a couple of coins a month!

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UNTIL WE FUCKING WIN.

Your favourite dirty anarchists. 

(Photo: French raid in 2014 where 14 rabbits were taken from a meat farm)

Today marks a year since our comrade and friend Waka was killed by Daesh in Syria. Waka was the most incredible human. When I first met him in Hambacher Forst I already knew I was meeting someone who would leave a mark in my life. 

Over the time we knew each other we shared knowledge, we questioned the world and we planned the revolution. Waka, a fighter wherever he was, joined campaigns around Europe. From Hambi to Dipton, joining us in Sweden to sab hunters on ice and hitchhiking wherever he needed to go, he was resilient. but he wasn’t just a fighter. He was a teacher, he was a thinker, and most importantly, he was a friend. 

It isn’t very difficult to understand why Waka would join the YPG. He knew the risks, not only of fighting a war but of joining a group that, in the eyes of western governments, sits in a very fine line between a people’s guerrilla and a terrorist organisation. But for Waka, there wasn’t a greyscale of oppression. Waka understood that all struggles are interconnected and that every single one of them is as deserving of the fight as the others. He also understood that there is no replacement planet and that if we do not fight now, we are condemned forever. 

We make a post today, but today isn’t the day we remember. We remember Waka every day. We remember him asking questions that always have difficult answers, we remember him taking notes of those answers and we remember him joining the fight with a smile, with such a beautiful perspective of what that might look like. 

I will never forget how he talked me into understanding that lorry surfing in front of a coal mine was ten times better whilst wearing a newts onesie. “It just looks more fun for the children”, he said. 

I often try and remember his perspective on fighting. Unapologetic, yet tender. Fiery but understandable. The perfect example of the diversity of tactics. The perfect example of intersectional activism. 

We shouldn’t just remember or commemorate. Waka was one for odd ceremonies that sat between fun and seriousness. But he was one for taking action too. Make it your duty to keep fighting, every day, in his memory, and for a future without oppression. 

I miss you mate, and the world is a tad shittier without you. 

But we keep fighting. We must keep fighting. 

Martyrs never die.

It is a busy time for us. Alongside Underground Badger Syndicate we are spending our days in the badger cull zones, disrupting shooters at night, looking for traps during the day and making sure that a little bit of the area is safe from murderous scum. 

For anyone that has not heard of it, the badger cull happens in the UK every year, attesting the wipe dead 70% of the badger population. They either cage trap them or shoot them in the open at night, and hundreds of people take the countryside as their playground to be a nuisance to farmers that are murdering badgers for the sake of it. 

It is a wet and miserable business, but it is also an incredible campaign and a very obvious example of how direct action saves lives. 

Sadly, it is also ridiculously time consuming and we are struggling to keep up with internet presence whilst the campaign is running. We have taken a day off to focus on scheduling posts to make sure we are active, but we will not be able to write every nuanced posts during the cull time. 



If you want to help during the cull there are many things you can do. You can Follow Stop the cull to ensure you know all the latest news and are able to join on internet pressure campaigns. You can get on the ground (either to smash stuff or to keep an eye on stuff, all levels of action are welcome). The best way of knowing where to go is to head to Badger Action Network and contact them with what your plans are. 

You can also follow and support Underground Badger Syndicate, our sister group focused on anti hunt direct action. They’ve lost their facebook page so they could do with a good injection of new followers.



Lastly, you can support us whilst we are working hard during the cull. Join our pattern page, buy some march our drop us some coins over PayPal. Everything is useful and needed. 

www.patreon.com/animalliberation

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UNTIL WE WIN!

So you know we are a media collective that does not fear taking action when needed. From Hambacher Forst to antifascist demos and anarchist community work, we report what’s going on in the front lines for those who need an anonymous platform whilst actively working towards improving the world.

The last few weeks have been intense and exhausting, and you probably have noticed that we have not published as much as normal. We’ve been giving talks in Earth First!, joined the Animal Rights March in London, then headed to Sheffield for more talks and then straight down south to join Smash Speciesism during the slaughterhouse action. All that stuff hasn’t helped us push the internet as much as possible and we have quite a few Hit Reports piled up. We are gonna publish three a day for the next few days until they are all mentioned and shared, but because social media isn’t a fan of us and we are shadowbanned in all platforms, we need you to do your part and share us however you can.

We are trying to take a couple of days off to recover. That last slaughterhouse action was intense, exhausting and draining. It was also quite a success in our opinion, but certainly, it took a lot of energy from us.

We’ve received bad news from the Support Eric King team, we will make a whole post about it soon. Also, Matthias’ appeal was ignored, so he is still locked up. We cannot stress how important it is to support our comrades in prison, so please do anything and everything to send them love or to change this situation.

Next on the list is the badger cull. That means no more workshops and talks for a couple of months, but a serious six to eight week shift of 12 hour days (minimum) until the British government decides it is enough and they stop killing badgers for the year. If you want to get involved with that, please contact Underground Badger Syndicate and let them know.

A is for Anarchy, Technology 101 and ALFridays coming back from next week. If we have the strength and will, we will also schedule a few Incite Conspire Inspire. Depends on the level of energy.

That is all from us, for now, and until we have something interesting to say again. The last thing we would like to ask is for folks to support us. Our funds are incredibly low, we are yet to reach the first Patreon goal and with the cull around the corner, we could do with as much spare cash as possible to cause havoc in the countryside.

If you want some march, we’ve stocked up a lot and you should be able to find your size. We have new designs, old designs, fresh stickers and whatever other stuff you fancy getting and it would be a major help. The same way, if you have sick pictures of our merch, please send them our way!
www.unoffensiveanimal.is/collections

If you’re able to, joining our Patreon helps the team. Even a couple of quid a month is a major donation, imagine if all our followers donated a dollar each!

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If not, you can drop us some coins via PayPal (try friends and family) on this email:
unoffensive_animal(at)tutanota.com

FOR THE WILD.

As many people might have seen already, Forge Farm Meat’s was blockaded by ten activists during the early hours of Tuesday, lasting over twelve hours before being evicted and essentially bringing the whole murderous operation to a standstill. Below you can read the report of one of the folks involved in the action.

“We didn’t sleep. More for nerves than lack of preparation, but we didn’t sleep. A couple of hours before setting off, after having met with the team, most of us were pacing up and down without much to do. We shared strategy and agreed on the action boundaries. For the action, we are to remain non-violent and we are not interested in causing any damage to the infrastructure. Not because we are non-violent or because we don’t believe in sabotage, but because we need to create an action approachable and acceptable for those who have never considered direct action. 

 What happens next is a very quick succession of actions that I struggle to remember perfectly. We drive, we walk down a field wet with dew and we carry lock ons. We take turns carrying that heavy concrete box. A rug is thrown over the barbed wire and we all jump over and into the perimeter. Without opposition and with no workers to be seen, we find Death Row and six people stay whilst another four climb up on the waste silo. We hope they bring a cherry picker to evict the silo. 

 The police come incredibly quickly. Less than ten minutes into the action and they already are here. They shout, they shove people around and struggle with us. They keep shining torches at us whilst threatening us with a hose. They make sexist comments. I feel disgusted by them, even more than I do regularly. I look at the ACAB lock-on and smile. I’m not sure they get the point as one of them says “Who is Acab”?

 By the break of dawn, we can see a good few people already supporting us from outside, whilst eight police officers try to break us down. We don’t care. Today we act because of all the sheep these people murder. They are the subject of our action, they are the only important part. No amount of laughter from the cops, threatening behaviour from workers or words of discouragement from the owner of the slaughterhouse changes anything. Those sheep deserve a second chance, those sheep deserved to be listened to, and we act by extending a metaphorical microphone to them. They want to be free. We are just translating their agency into action that other humans can understand. 

The smell fills the air. You can chew it. It surrounds us all in sticky doom. It reminds us of the blood and body parts still rotting in the bins right next to us and of the number of individuals that have been murdered in the building for mere profit under the belief that other animals are lesser than we are. 

 I look back towards the sheep with my heart in my mouth. They look skinny, terrified, seeking a route to escape. One of them coughs very loudly. The sound hits against my ears, hard, and it worries me. The police don’t take notice. Sheep are things to them.

 A drone flies above us. It’s one of our comrades, signalling us, so some of us let off smoke grenades. I cannot wait to see the footage with the sun glowing orange behind us, the disgusting building underneath us and the smoke flying high, tarnishing the sky red. If that image doesn’t make people look, I don’t know what else we can do. 

 We insist on the fact that we are happy to leave the building and unlock if they release the sheep to a safe home. We have it all prepared, spaces for all of them, transport and regulated drivers. It is their call. They have the chance to redeem themselves, to start a new life, to become part of the solution. We are not naive though, and we know there is a very slim chance. 

 One by one, they get us out of the lock-ons and into arrest vans. We don’t walk, we go limp and make them carry us. Something turns in my stomach when I look back towards the holding pens and see the sheep. I’m being forced to leave them behind. 

 At the police station, they act like they are all new. It takes hours for each one of us to be processed and even longer to be interviewed. I think of every animal locked in a crate on their way to slaughter, every animal imprisoned in a box inside of a lab, every single one of them. I think of the sheep I met today and I puke. I will be here for a day maximum. They get life sentence. 

After the standard harassment of police and a very long arrest, one by one, all of us are let out with conditions. So many people have been waiting for us outside of the station with snacks and hugs. It is heartwarming and gives me back life. They remind me that the action was a success and explain how the media has reacted to it. They explain that thousands of people have commented or messaged in solidarity and that people keep saying they feel inspired and want to take action. 

I think about the last twenty-four hours. It’s been a ride. I only hope that people got the message that speciesism needs to be challenged and more and more comrades decide to stand against it unapologetically. A thought crosses my mind at speed; “what are we blockading next?”. I smile. I’ve only been out for a few minutes. I don’t think I can help myself.”

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We recently joined the animal liberation gathering in Rome for a weekend of workshops and building connections with radical liberatory anti-speciesists.
In our introduction to hunt sabotage workshop, we shared our various techniques for stopping different types of hunting in different countries. We had a lot of fun discussing the smashing of hunting towers, sheds and traps, and drew upon the similarities in the uk badger cull and Italian nutria cull. We also discussed the links between weapons manufacturers producing arms for both hunters and warfare.

In our workshop on security culture, we shared ideas about keeping safe, especially given the severe repression many comrades are facing and the extreme measures utilised by the state for surveillance.

There was a strong emphasis throughout the gathering on the importance of solidarity and support of comrades in prison or awaiting trial. There are currently over 30 anarchist prisoners in Italy, some of whom have sentences of 20 years, and other cases of “preventative arrest” where comrades have been caged for 2 years before being released without charge. This situation is similar to that of Matthias in Switzerland, who’s 8 months in prison has now been extended for at least another 2.

Joining together with comrades from around the world made us ever more aware of how interconnected our struggles are, and the multi-national operations of corporate animal abusers. For example, the company building Europe’s largest pig slaughterhouse in Binefar, Spain, is an Italian company with offices and operations within Italy.

Another major topic discussed was how to make the animal liberation movement more radical, and move away from how the rise in veganism had shifted discourse from animal liberation to welfarism, health, and individualist consumerist veganism. Also, how we stop the infiltration of fascist groups, racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia and ableism, and remain intersectional. We must build a strong alternative, and grow a movement for total liberation.

It was wonderful to build those connections and we cannot wait to meet again. It was also a pleasure to share our bit of knowledge with everybody.

If anyone is able to help with travel costs, getting to Italy and back was £300, so PayPal or patreon is always appreciated.

www.PayPal.me/unoffensiveanimal112

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UNTIL ALL ARE FREE!

Since the 15th of March, about 45,000 game birds have been released from breeding farms in the UK.

The shooting industry in the UK is responsible for the strategic release of 43 million game birds every year. 60% of those birds are bred in the UK whilst 40% are imported from game farms outside of the country, be it as hatching eggs or as live chicks.

The pheasant and partridge are bred in factory farm conditions. They will keep breeding birds all year round, take their eggs and hatch them in incubators. Then the breeding farms will sell chicks aged from a day old to 6/8 week old juveniles to shooting estates, who will keep them in outdoor pens until they are ready to be released in strategic locations. Then gamekeepers will place feeders and water in specific places, getting the birds used to living exactly where they need them to be and ready for the shoot days.

During a shoot, beaters (a group of people making noise and walking in a straight line across places where the game birds live) will push those birds out and up in the air, making them fly, so people who pay a fuck load of money can shoot them out the sky. Its the ultimate betrayal, caring for them for months to push them into their death.

After a game farm map was released earlier this year, autonomous groups have been busy. Folks have approached game farms and released as many birds as they could. It is true that those birds still run the risk of being shot, but we must remember that game farms are not shooting estates, even though some of them might be within the estate itself. That means that their targeted and strategic release of birds is massively fucked with, and that gamekeepers lose a huge amount of money.

Because those birds are not used to living in the wild, many of them might fall victim of foxes and birds of prey. This is not different to gamekeepers releasing them in the shooting estate, but it does mean that the shooting industry loses a lot of money. And we must understand the industry as what it is, a capitalist enterprise. Their whole year revolves around breeding those birds and managing the land so they can make money during the shooting season. If they lose the birds, their year is over before the season starts.

Out of multiple reports that people have sent we can gather some useful information. Plastic netting tends to be used as either a roof or as roof and walls. It is easily cut with scissors or Stanley knifes, but needs to be rolled up and taken out of the way of the birds so they manage to run or fly away without getting entangled. Chicken wire is also used on the panels and can be cut with tin snips. Bolt cutters are an overkill for that kind of action.

Electric fences are out around the farm and are easy to disconnect by locating the battery. That metal wire can then be cut so it cannot be used again. Many breeding sheds might have heat lamps powered with gas bottles that can be disconnected and stolen. Gas plastic pipes can be cut off afterwards, gas regulators can be broken, and the lamps themselves can be either broken or stolen.

Once netting or wire has been cut making a big enough hole for the birds to escape, folks have been herding them out by creating a line and walking them towards that hole. In some reports, sheds have also be broken as much as possible to provide extra escape routes for those birds who didn’t get herded out of the pen during the action.

There is no more than a month left for folks to do these kinds of actions before birds are moved into estate pens before the shooting season starts. Anyone that decides to take action could use the game farm map to find locations.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1uzyEb2Z8EW7LLByNhU1L5t2Fpv6SjmKf&ll=52.849145085810676%2C-1.600239149999993&z=6

There have been reports of this kind of action in other countries, like a pheasant breeding farm in Sweden last week, and we should mention that there are huge breeders in France and Portugal producing game birds in battery cages to then be transported for shooting in the UK. You can find more information about this in the Hunt Saboteurs Association website. Portugal alone exports 20 million game birds reared in battery cages.

Don’t get this confused with a single issue campaign. The shooting industry is responsible for many forms of oppression at once, not just for the death of millions of birds. The land management means wild populations are murdered with traps to eliminate possible predators and forests and hedges are manicured to the like of rich dickheads that want to shoot birds. The destruction of uncountable numbers of species both plant and animal is obvious as soon as anyone sets foot on a shooting estate. The upkeeping of the class system is also a big part of the shooting industry, with an interesting relationship between the working class “servants” and the upper class “customers”. Lastly, this is a land rights issue. No one is welcome in shooting estates, regardless of public footpaths. No one is able to grow a few vegetables or build a little shack in the countryside partly because of the mass amount of land owned by game estates.

It is also important to mention that a pheasant will lay 28 eggs from March to July. 20 of those eggs will make their way into birds that will be shot dead. For that reason, the earlier in the year, the more impact the action will have. If targeting breeding farms outside of the breeding season, folks recommend to not do so over winter and to wait until February/March time to ensure game farms do not have the possibility to restock before the breeding season starts. Doing quick numbers, 10.000 released birds in March could mean up to 200k birds saved from being shot dead. Impressive, right?

Don’t let this opportunity pass. Get yourself a mask, spend a couple of nights in the countryside, and smash the shooting industry to the ground.

FOR THE WILD!

Since the 15th of March, about 45,000 game birds have been released from breeding farms in the UK.

The shooting industry in the UK is responsible for the strategic release of 43 million game birds every year. 60% of those birds are bred in the UK whilst 40% are imported from game farms outside of the country, be it as hatching eggs or as live chicks.

The pheasant and partridge are bred in factory farm conditions. They will keep breeding birds all year round, take their eggs and hatch them in incubators. Then the breeding farms will sell chicks aged from a day old to 6/8 week old juveniles to shooting estates, who will keep them in outdoor pens until they are ready to be released in strategic locations. Then gamekeepers will place feeders and water in specific places, getting the birds used to living exactly where they need them to be and ready for the shoot days.

During a shoot, beaters (a group of people making noise and walking in a straight line across places where the game birds live) will push those birds out and up in the air, making them fly, so people who pay a fuck load of money can shoot them out the sky. Its the ultimate betrayal, caring for them for months to push them into their death.

After a game farm map was released earlier this year, autonomous groups have been busy. Folks have approached game farms and released as many birds as they could. It is true that those birds still run the risk of being shot, but we must remember that game farms are not shooting estates, even though some of them might be within the estate itself. That means that their targeted and strategic release of birds is massively fucked with, and that gamekeepers lose a huge amount of money.

Because those birds are not used to living in the wild, many of them might fall victim of foxes and birds of prey. This is not different to gamekeepers releasing them in the shooting estate, but it does mean that the shooting industry loses a lot of money. And we must understand the industry as what it is, a capitalist enterprise. Their whole year revolves around breeding those birds and managing the land so they can make money during the shooting season. If they lose the birds, their year is over before the season starts.

Out of multiple reports that people have sent we can gather some useful information. Plastic netting tends to be used as either a roof or as roof and walls. It is easily cut with scissors or Stanley knifes, but needs to be rolled up and taken out of the way of the birds so they manage to run or fly away without getting entangled. Chicken wire is also used on the panels and can be cut with tin snips. Bolt cutters are an overkill for that kind of action.

Electric fences are out around the farm and are easy to disconnect by locating the battery. That metal wire can then be cut so it cannot be used again. Many breeding sheds might have heat lamps powered with gas bottles that can be disconnected and stolen. Gas plastic pipes can be cut off afterwards, gas regulators can be broken, and the lamps themselves can be either broken or stolen.

Once netting or wire has been cut making a big enough hole for the birds to escape, folks have been herding them out by creating a line and walking them towards that hole. In some reports, sheds have also be broken as much as possible to provide extra escape routes for those birds who didn’t get herded out of the pen during the action.

There is no more than a month left for folks to do these kinds of actions before birds are moved into estate pens before the shooting season starts. Anyone that decides to take action could use the game farm map to find locations.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1uzyEb2Z8EW7LLByNhU1L5t2Fpv6SjmKf&ll=52.849145085810676%2C-1.600239149999993&z=6

There have been reports of this kind of action in other countries, like a pheasant breeding farm in Sweden last week, and we should mention that there are huge breeders in France and Portugal producing game birds in battery cages to then be transported for shooting in the UK. You can find more information about this in the Hunt Saboteurs Association website. Portugal alone exports 20 million game birds reared in battery cages.

Don’t get this confused with a single issue campaign. The shooting industry is responsible for many forms of oppression at once, not just for the death of millions of birds. The land management means wild populations are murdered with traps to eliminate possible predators and forests and hedges are manicured to the like of rich dickheads that want to shoot birds. The destruction of uncountable numbers of species both plant and animal is obvious as soon as anyone sets foot on a shooting estate. The upkeeping of the class system is also a big part of the shooting industry, with an interesting relationship between the working class “servants” and the upper class “customers”. Lastly, this is a land rights issue. No one is welcome in shooting estates, regardless of public footpaths. No one is able to grow a few vegetables or build a little shack in the countryside partly because of the mass amount of land owned by game estates.

It is also important to mention that a pheasant will lay 28 eggs from March to July. 20 of those eggs will make their way into birds that will be shot dead. For that reason, the earlier in the year, the more impact the action will have. If targeting breeding farms outside of the breeding season, folks recommend to not do so over winter and to wait until February/March time to ensure game farms do not have the possibility to restock before the breeding season starts. Doing quick numbers, 10.000 released birds in March could mean up to 200k birds saved from being shot dead. Impressive, right?

Don’t let this opportunity pass. Get yourself a mask, spend a couple of nights in the countryside, and smash the shooting industry to the ground.

FOR THE WILD!

We’ve kept quiet for a little while. It is mostly related to a lot of work behind the scenes and reorganising stuff, and it didn’t help that our website broke and the tech humans had to give it some love. It also is about burn out. After organising and giving talks for a few months whilst keeping up the internet presence, the lack of energy was starting to show.

Luckily, the team is growing and expanding and we are finding ways of splitting work and make things easier for everybody, but the first signs of burnout were showing for many of us. For that reason it was clear we needed to take a break, reanalyze, work on many things that needed fixing and get back to work stronger.

It did make us think that many of us in the activist community don’t really know how to take a break. It can become quite asphyxiating, thinking about all the wrongs we see in the world and not knowing how to fix them. Maybe even infuriating that regardless of what actions we take, the world never seems to change quick enough. It is hard to take a break through a storm.

“Aftershock: Confronting trauma in a violent world” has been a good book for us to reanalyze how we relate to trauma related activism as well as a great tool to aid others struggling with traumatic experiences. Regardless of how good that book might be, it doesn’t actually prepare you for the hard reality of taking a break.

We’ve asked a few folks within the collective to tell us what they feel is good self care to avoid (or to tenderly heal) burn out. Suggestions were varied because there is no one single recipe to help us all. Some folks mentioned long walks in the woods, watching easy TV shows, having sex, watching the wild be wild, cuddling animals or eating nice food. Joining other struggles where we don’t feel an urge to organise as we are less used to the community was also mentioned. Mindless vandalism, fucking with advertisements on the streets and shoplifting your heart out were also mentioned.

The only thing that was clear is that avoiding emotions was not a good way to deal with them.

We are animals. Part of our animal is to feel, and whilst we deprive the animal from one of our primal needs we are not just stopping ourselves from growing but also applying a very speciesist philosophy to our life.

So regardless of what your coping mechanisms are, regardless of your needs, allow for those emotions to come out and to evolve, making you a stronger, more effective and much more driven to the revolution.

And if you are struggling, remember that we are a community, that you are not alone and that change needs time. Reach out to others, take a break and let your comrades take the lead for a while. You’ll get through to the other side.

LOVE IS REVOLUTION.

Pic: Queens against RWE, because struggles are interconnected, because climate change is scary, and of course, because queers ALWAYS bash back!